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Post by Woody on Apr 23, 2014 9:41:41 GMT
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Post by IT Troll on Apr 23, 2014 15:57:30 GMT
That is a good price. For some reason the X3230 isn't very available in the UK. The slightly slower X3220 is more common.
The Q6700 often sells for the low thirties in the UK if you keep a watch (I got mine for £33). In reality I don't think there is any difference between this and the X3230.
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Post by Woody on Apr 23, 2014 18:05:48 GMT
Yes, I got my Q6700 for around £30. As Oliver has said before, in real world terms I don't think there is any difference between the Quad and the Xeon, they both seem to score 7.2 in the Windows experience score. With these second hand processors it is a bit of a toss up... ...the Xeons are meant to be made from higher grade materials, but they have most likely been running 24/7 for years. A Q6700 is unlikely to have had the same amount of use, but may have been over clocked. Have to admit I am tempted to get one of these X3230 just to conduct a comparison test, at this price they are almost giving them away.. ..amazing when you consider their original price!  |
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Post by IT Troll on Apr 23, 2014 21:23:04 GMT
...the Xeons are meant to be made from higher grade materials... It is often speculated that the Xeons are made better, or are cherry picked, but there is no hard evidence to support that this is the case. Certainly people who de-lid their processors for extreme cooling have found no physical differences. In reality CPUs of the same stepping are likley made to the exact same manufacturing process and it is just down to luck of the draw how any given chip performs. The Xeon does have a slightly different thermal profile and slightly higher maximum power draw though. This could be because the Xeon has an extra feature enabled for network efficiency, called Intel I/O Acceleration Technology (I/OAT). This is only of use in certain server hardware configurations and so is disabled on the Q6700. For our purposes they are identical and so I wouldn't bother getting another unless you want a spare. |
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Post by Woody on Apr 29, 2014 7:50:23 GMT
I did get a X3230 in the end, as I thought this was a great price and as you say it is nice to have some spare parts.. ..I may actually use it (when it arrives) in my VGX and keep my Q6700 as the spare.
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Post by IT Troll on Apr 29, 2014 9:09:34 GMT
If you do decide to install it would be nice to see some before and after benchmarks if you have the time. When I did my upgrade from dual to quad I just left CoreTemp running and logging for a 24 hour period and then fed the data into Excel. forum.vgx-xl.com/post/439 |
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Post by Oliver on Apr 29, 2014 15:27:37 GMT
Hi Woody,
Yeah like IT Troll said, it would be interesting if you used a benchmark tool and monitored your temps before and after (but let the thermal paste set first and try to have the ambiant temps similar).
There seems to be a lot of debate over the differences between the 2 processors, it would be interesting to see if the benchmarks or temperatures vary.
Oliver
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Post by Woody on Apr 29, 2014 19:58:23 GMT
Hi IT Troll and Oliver,
I will do so if I get time.. ..I am interested to see the differences myself
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Post by Woody on May 1, 2014 10:37:35 GMT
Still waiting for the X3230 to arrive from the US ;-)
I have a quick question (probably for Oliver, as he is running with a X3230).. ..do you still get the 'Viiv' quick resume features with the X3230.. ..I can't see why you wouldn't (they seem to be almost identical processors to the quad cores), its just that I notice that the Xeons were never part of the official 'Viiv' specifications.
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Post by Oliver on May 1, 2014 20:59:56 GMT
Hi Woody,
I never used viiv features, probably because I installed clean Win7 straight after buying my my vgx-xls. I never really knew what it was so never really missed it, but now I wonder if I've been missing out on something.
Sent from my phone, using Tapatalk
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Post by Woody on May 2, 2014 7:36:29 GMT
Hi Oliver,
Viiv was more of a branding exercise, akin to the Centrino platform, it was meant to display that the computer was geared towards media delivery etc.
I don't think the actual features were anything that we aren't already now very used to, all media related. Intel dropped the branding after only a couple of years as people didn't really understand it (not surprised!) and they focused back on to the branding of the CPU.
All I really want to know is that using the X3202 CPU you still get the 'instant on' (well ok, nearly instant) from standby using the remote.
This is a feature I really like and don't really want to loose.
Many thanks in advance
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gladiateur555
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VGX-XL: VGX-XL201
CPU: Intel Xeon 3230
RAM: 4x1 GB DDR2-800 MHz
Graphics: XFX Radeon HD6450 1GB
BIOS: Mod V1.2 (Advanced)
HDD/SSD: SSD Samsung 840 Pro 120GB
Optical Drive: Blu-ray Optiarc BC-5600S
Keyboard: Original Sony
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Post by gladiateur555 on May 2, 2014 10:39:01 GMT
When the OS is installed on a SSD, waking up is always very fast!
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Post by Woody on May 2, 2014 10:50:17 GMT
When the OS is installed on a SSD, waking up is always very fast! Yes, but this is not the same as 'instant on', which is (relatively)... ...instant!  |
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Post by Oliver on May 2, 2014 22:07:00 GMT
Hi, I'm not sure if I have the feature but it is pretty quick, but then I do have a SSD like glad said. I've just tested this and did a quick video on my phone, I let you judge if its as quick as your current set up? Seems pretty instant to me |
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Post by IT Troll on May 2, 2014 23:15:26 GMT
I never turn mine off and so my on is truly instant!  I used to run mine with a sleep mode, but with remote access and 8 potential client devices, it just makes more sense to leave it running. Unfortunately a client device cannot wake a sleeping server. |
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Post by apolloxl201 on Nov 17, 2014 18:06:56 GMT
I got the Xeon Quad Core x3230 CPU chip from Hongkong.
Using the video guide in this forum, I successfully installed it. Even bought the heat paste for it.
The 201 detected the new processor and voila! From 4.8 in the Windows evaluation, it soared up to 7.2!
Yehey!
Just showing my appreciation to this fabulous forum. For helping me find the right chip and installation.
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Post by Oliver on Nov 17, 2014 20:27:22 GMT
Thanks for coming back to gives us feedback. Glad it all worked out well for you
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simon214
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Posts: 24
VGX-XL: VGX-XL100
CPU: D 945 pentium dual core 3.4Ghz
RAM: 4 GB 533mhz DDR2
Graphics: NVidia GT 710 1gb
BIOS: Mod V1.2 (Standard)
HDD/SSD: 1TB
Optical Drive: standard
TV Tuner 1: Philips 210SE DVB-T
TV Tuner 2: none
Keyboard: kensington trackball
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Post by simon214 on Mar 12, 2016 12:30:33 GMT
wait.... i've found loads of X3220 xeons... and some Q6600's... is that close enough? i think i might have missed the boat and be running off the end of the pier with this.... the Q6600 and 3220 are 105 watts but so is the Q6700? so are they all compatable? with Big bios ?
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Post by Oliver on Mar 13, 2016 8:50:28 GMT
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Post by Oliver on Mar 13, 2016 9:04:15 GMT
Also simon214A q6600 may work depending on which version, the go stepping version is only 95watts. I'm no expert so Google the different versions and if you buy one make sure you go for the 95w version |
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