vinthebutcher
Junior Member
Posts: 47
VGX-XL: VGX-XL1A
CPU: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz/2.79GHz
RAM: 2.50GB
Graphics: GeForce 610
Media Changer: VGP-XL1B
Keyboard: Logitech k400r
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Post by vinthebutcher on Sept 16, 2013 17:07:45 GMT
Just updated my XGL-XL1a a few minutes ago with the new BIOS in preparation to the new processor I ordered. I got a Intel Cpu Pentium D 945 3.4Ghz Fsb800Mhz 2Mbx2 Dual Core from Amazon.com for $20.00, it shipped this morning and should be here in a few days. Tried finding a Pentium D 960, but no solid sales. Also ordered Komputerbay 2GB 2X 1GB DDR2 667MHz PC2-5300 PC2-5400 DDR2 667 (240 PIN) DIMM from Amazon.com for $17.99, free Prime two day shipping! It's no name brand, but that's the best kind and it's lifetime warranty. BOIS update went smooth, I mean other then me standing up pacing bighting my nails as a thunderstorm was rolling outside, thought the power might go out.... lol Earlier in the week I picked up an MSI HD 6450 2gig DDR3 fanless card for $29.99 at the tigerdirect store. It was $44.95 with mail in rebates, but the manager gave it to me for $29.99. Question: Under CPUID it shows the BIOS as 1.0.0.1 and 09/23/2005 as the date, is this correct?
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Post by kepocuhka on Sept 16, 2013 18:39:19 GMT
The BIOS version and date not changed exposure, due to problems with CRC.
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vinthebutcher
Junior Member
Posts: 47
VGX-XL: VGX-XL1A
CPU: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz/2.79GHz
RAM: 2.50GB
Graphics: GeForce 610
Media Changer: VGP-XL1B
Keyboard: Logitech k400r
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Post by vinthebutcher on Sept 16, 2013 19:25:42 GMT
OK cool, just making sure everything was installed correctly.
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Post by Oliver on Sept 16, 2013 20:23:08 GMT
Hi Vince, You got advice from a member of the BIOS Team, and as you'd expect he is correct. The way to tell if you are running the upgraded BIOS is by the 2 new splash screens, I guess you already assumed as much, its just a little worrying seeing the same BIOS date as before. I was more concerned as I had turned my splash screens off some time ago, so I noticed no difference, I had to ask the same question as you. Your upgrading a lot of hardware, you should see some real difference in your machine. The VGX-XL range is so cosmetically pleasing, its great you have extended the life of your by quite a bit. You have manage to invest a very reasonable amount of money to really improve your VAIO, that's much better and cheaper than just buying a new system. Are you planning on installing all the hardware at the same time or in stages? I'm sure I read somewhere that it's better to install only one new piece of hardware at a time, if you then experience any issues or BSOD's it would then be much easier to diagnose and solve the issues. That said, personally I would do all three at the same time and as you are the kind of guy that flashes his BIOS during a thunderstorm (that's just crazy!) you'll probably take your chances again and install all 3 Please let us know how you get on with your upgrades and how much it improves your performance, Oliver
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vinthebutcher
Junior Member
Posts: 47
VGX-XL: VGX-XL1A
CPU: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz/2.79GHz
RAM: 2.50GB
Graphics: GeForce 610
Media Changer: VGP-XL1B
Keyboard: Logitech k400r
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Post by vinthebutcher on Sept 16, 2013 21:20:41 GMT
Ya video card has been put in for a couple days, memory should be installed Wednesday, CPU a couple days later. Should be time for each item to run to see if any errors pop up.
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vinthebutcher
Junior Member
Posts: 47
VGX-XL: VGX-XL1A
CPU: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz/2.79GHz
RAM: 2.50GB
Graphics: GeForce 610
Media Changer: VGP-XL1B
Keyboard: Logitech k400r
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Post by vinthebutcher on Sept 18, 2013 19:50:42 GMT
Well PC won't work with the new processor. Goes to the windows 8 icon, then a blue repair screen, sometimes the screen is scribbled, sometimes its clear. Also receive a 'UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP' error.
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Post by Oliver on Sept 18, 2013 22:07:36 GMT
Hi Vince, I'm sorry to hear that. Firstly I have wrote a post on the BIOS creators private beta testers forum about your issue, the creators will have a much better idea than me. Can we eliminate all the obvious stuff, did you defiantly install the modded BIOS, did you install the CPU correctly and are you sure the CPU isn't faulty? I heard about a CPU not working because dust had got between the CPU and the socket. I have Googled your fault and this article looks like it might be useful... www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-1653143/fix-unexpected-kernel-mode-trap-windows-error.htmlI know that the BIOS team spend 8 months had 17 beta testers plus the 3 members of the team all making sure the BIOS update was stable and for all VGX-XL models. Hopefully others will be able to give you more concrete advice, please let us know if you manage to solve your problem. I'm going to read through the long beta testers forum now, see if anyone else has reported anything similar. Cheers, Oliver
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Post by Oliver on Sept 18, 2013 23:05:05 GMT
Hi again, I have read through the BIOS beta testers forum, it seems your particular motherboard had the most issues, but all issues where successfully resolved. Some advice I found to help with the issues are 1. To unplug all USB and FireWire ports before upgrading the BIOS and 2. To install the latest Intel chip set drivers found here.. downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?lang=eng&changeLang=true&DwnldId=18033Also you need a CPU which is TDP-95w or lower, any higher and your system will be unstable due to the limit of your power supply. Oliver
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vinthebutcher
Junior Member
Posts: 47
VGX-XL: VGX-XL1A
CPU: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz/2.79GHz
RAM: 2.50GB
Graphics: GeForce 610
Media Changer: VGP-XL1B
Keyboard: Logitech k400r
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Post by vinthebutcher on Sept 19, 2013 1:57:39 GMT
I installed the drivers from your link, still have an error.
Now its showing a Kernal Security error!?!
I really appreciate the help. :-)
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Post by Oliver on Sept 19, 2013 6:04:52 GMT
Hi Vince, I found this on Google about your new error... forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=24447And this about your original error.. support.microsoft.com/kb/137539Most stuff I find seems to suggest hardware failure. I don't know if it's a faulty CPU or software or something else. That last link I gave you suggests trying to swap around your RAM memory sticks, though that wouldn't explain why your VAIO worked fine with the old CPU, so probably not the cause of your issue. Though if you did install new RAM at the same time as you CPU it would defiantly be worth removing that and testing again. I really hope to get advice from someone in the BIOS team, but we'll need to be patient. Do you know if your CPU is a sSPEC 'SL9QB' or the sSPEC 'SL9QQ'? It shouldn't matter as both are suppose to have a TDP-95w and both where tested during the beta testing, both times the CPUs where tested on the VGX-XL2 which has the same motherboard as your VGX-XL1. Both times the CPUs ran without issue. Fortunately you bought your CPU from Amazon, who are excellent at refunding customers. So if you have a faulty or incompatible CPU you should be able to return it. Though let's see what the BIOS team think about your errors first Cheers, Oliver
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Post by jwa4 on Sept 19, 2013 12:03:47 GMT
Hello Vince, Sorry to hear about your problems, it seems you made a number of upgrades in a relatively short space of time so I'd like to start over to eliminate some variables. I have a Pentium D 945 and a P5LP-MB motherboard from an XL2 (later revision board) here I can test with by force flashing the XL1 BIOS onto the board (Don't try this at home . All of our tests were done on Windows 7 but I will try and replicate your fault with Windows 8. 1. Can you confirm the stepping of the processor - SL9QB or SL9QQ? As Oliver states, both of these should work - my tests were done with SL9QB. 2. Did you re-enable the splash screens or load setup defaults to confirm that the modified BIOS was installed? 3. Was the processor new or used? 4. Could you go back to your old memory and graphics card so that they can be eliminated as possible problems? 5. If you have a spare hard drive (or willing to re-install on your current drive) would you be in a position to attempt a fresh install of Windows 8? I'll be looking into this today to see if I can spot anything on my test rig. Thanks John
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vinthebutcher
Junior Member
Posts: 47
VGX-XL: VGX-XL1A
CPU: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz/2.79GHz
RAM: 2.50GB
Graphics: GeForce 610
Media Changer: VGP-XL1B
Keyboard: Logitech k400r
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Post by vinthebutcher on Sept 19, 2013 18:31:42 GMT
Computer works good with the old processor inside as I switched them back out and then put the new one back in to test the driver update he posted.
The new splash screens are present, not sure I know what re-enable the splash screens mean, was I suppose to disable them?
Update: SL9QQ is the processor type
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vinthebutcher
Junior Member
Posts: 47
VGX-XL: VGX-XL1A
CPU: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz/2.79GHz
RAM: 2.50GB
Graphics: GeForce 610
Media Changer: VGP-XL1B
Keyboard: Logitech k400r
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Post by vinthebutcher on Sept 19, 2013 19:46:47 GMT
With the old processor installed, I'm currently using my VGX-XL1 to type this.
Just found a NEW Intel Driver Chipset update that was released a couple days ago for Windows 7, 8, and 8.1.
Just installed it and going to try the new processor again, doubt it will work, but it's worth a shot....
Going to run out of Thermal Artic Silver #5 here in a minute lmfao....
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Post by Oliver on Sept 19, 2013 20:29:36 GMT
Hi Vince, Its worth installing the latest Intel drivers, I too doubt it will work but I'm no expert. I didn't realise Intel had released new drivers, I should have advised you to download the latest drivers, it would have saved you a CPU change, sorry. When John asked if you had re-enabled the splash screens, he only wanted to make sure you had the new modded BIOS installed, it doesn't mater if you have the splash screen enabled or not. Its a pain problem solving with hardware and your probably getting peed off with it, I'm sure it will be worth it in the end though. I'm totally stumped as to why it is not working for you, nobody in the test group had any major problems as long as the test CPU was TDP-95w or less. Usually if a CPU is faulty it wouldn't work at all, but a faulty CPU is still a possibility. Let's see if John can figure it out. I hope your not going to be the first person to fail at the upgrade. Keep us informed mate, I've got my fingers crossed you won't need to buy anymore thermal paste Oliver
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vinthebutcher
Junior Member
Posts: 47
VGX-XL: VGX-XL1A
CPU: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz/2.79GHz
RAM: 2.50GB
Graphics: GeForce 610
Media Changer: VGP-XL1B
Keyboard: Logitech k400r
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Post by vinthebutcher on Sept 19, 2013 22:06:03 GMT
I think I'm just going to return the processor and get another one.
It did say new on amazon, but who knows.
I'll have them send me another.
When I reinstalled the processor, every reset showed a new error, whether it was a kernal or bad_pool.
Most of the errors pointed to hardware as a possible cause, not to mention 99% of the time any error could be hardware related.
I just don't want to waste everyone's time over the possibility of me ordering a defective CPU.
I'll keep everyone posted when I get in touch with amazon.
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Post by Oliver on Sept 20, 2013 5:57:02 GMT
Hi Vince,
I will would wait till John gets back to you before sending the CPU back, let's see what he can figure out. If for some unknown reason it just doesn't work on your system you may need a refund. I didn't realise your CPU was new, I guess that makes the odds of it being faulty even lower.
Like John said earlier, a fresh install of Windows 8 might help, but that would likely be a lot of messing around especially if you don't have a spare hard drive knocking around.
Sent from my phone using a forum app
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vinthebutcher
Junior Member
Posts: 47
VGX-XL: VGX-XL1A
CPU: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz/2.79GHz
RAM: 2.50GB
Graphics: GeForce 610
Media Changer: VGP-XL1B
Keyboard: Logitech k400r
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Post by vinthebutcher on Sept 20, 2013 6:53:24 GMT
Installed another hard drive and ran a windows 7 install. (don't have windows 8 disc as it was an upgrade from Microsoft downloader)
Got the blue screen in two attempts.
Just seems odd that the PC took me all the way through the installation of windows 7 with a blue screen at random times.
Going to try another install.
sent from windows phone
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Post by jwa4 on Sept 20, 2013 14:45:33 GMT
Hello,
I've rebuilt my system with the P5LP-MB motherboard and have force flashed the modded XL1 BIOS onto it, I've got the Pentium D 945 installed and will be seeing what happens with Windows 8 later today.
No chipset drivers should be needed on a clean install in theory, we only had to install the latest drivers on systems that may have had legacy drivers following an OS upgrade instead of a clean install.
I'll keep you updated.
Thanks John
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vinthebutcher
Junior Member
Posts: 47
VGX-XL: VGX-XL1A
CPU: Intel Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz/2.79GHz
RAM: 2.50GB
Graphics: GeForce 610
Media Changer: VGP-XL1B
Keyboard: Logitech k400r
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Post by vinthebutcher on Sept 20, 2013 17:34:32 GMT
Well I keep getting BSOD when trying to fresh install windows 7.
Every time shows a new error first 0x0000001a, then 0x0000007f etc....
Took new ram out durring install, next going to take out video card and put in original one.
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Post by jwa4 on Sept 21, 2013 13:00:15 GMT
Hello,
No luck replicating this yet, I'll be trying again this evening.
Thanks John
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