sylas25
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Post by sylas25 on Nov 13, 2014 16:19:42 GMT
Hi. My name is Sylwester. I`m from Poland. I have a Sony Vaio vgx-xl100 model. My friend buy this computer in England. Operating system in this computer is windows 7 demo (not activated. On back cover is original serial number from sony, but I searching Windows Xp media center edition 2005 and still nothing. I found media center edition 2002 and not working change language to Polish. I have a problem with sound on HDMI, becouse sound is only headphone jack and optical on backside. I search recovery disk to my sony vaio multimedia computer, becouse I thing is an oryginal system and all application gonna be works fine. Please help me. I don`t know what can I do and where find this recovery cd or dvd. Please.
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Post by Oliver on Nov 13, 2014 17:37:06 GMT
Hi Sylwester, my wife tells me your name means New Years Eve in Poland. Firstly welcome to the forum, I hope you find it useful. If you have been reading this thread you know that we have just acquired the XL100 recovery disks that you require, mrtbag has kindly uploaded them to one drive for the benefit of the community. I am currently trying to download them, but I keep getting a "Failed Network error". As soon as I successfully download the files, I'll upload them them to my google drive and provide both sets of links to download from. This forum and VGX-XLpedia are provided completely free including all the downloads, however to access the download/members section we require that you make at least 4 posts, the good news is you only need 3 more posts Hopefully we will have the discs available soon, so please just bear with us a little. Regards, Oliver
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sylas25
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Post by sylas25 on Nov 13, 2014 20:51:52 GMT
Yes, My name it means the end of old year and begin new year. I observe this post and I hope that it will this recovery. I try installed recovery xl2 but it is not compare, and installation is failed. "del" You have windows xp media center edition 2005 in Your XL-100?? or Windows 7 recovery disk??? Do You have a sound via HDMI on TV??? I have only headphones jack or optical SPDIF. Sorry for my English, i help myself english translator in trouble
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Post by IT Troll on Nov 13, 2014 22:40:59 GMT
The recovery discs will be Windows XP. But to be honest you would be best sticking with Windows 7. Windows 7 will give you a much better experience than Windows XP. You will need to get a full licence for it though.
The original graphics card requires an internal connection wire to the sound card. If this is disconnected that might explain your HDMI problem.
However some people have still had problems with HDMI on the original graphics card with certain TVs. The only solution is to fit a new graphics card. Modern graphics cards have a built in sound chip and work much better with HDMI.
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Post by Oliver on Nov 14, 2014 9:50:51 GMT
Just to back up what ittroll said, Win7 is currently the preferred choice for us on the forum. I managed to download the 2nd XL100 recovery disc, the first disc had network error again. I'll have more time this weekend to try again with disc 1. A new graphic card can solve a whole load of issues with these systems, give a noticable performance boost and are relatively cheap, so something you should defiantly consider. If you still have the original graphics card, it will be pretty old now and is probably due a new one anyway.
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sylas25
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Post by sylas25 on Nov 14, 2014 16:30:19 GMT
I have original graphics card. In PC is 4x1Gb RAM DDR2, 2 hd drive 160GB Sata and rest of original hardware. I think is no problem for me to change graphics card for a better. This computer I connected in salon room to tv and I want to play movies (divx and 3d) and nothing else. It not a make sense to change graphics card. I open up cover and look into a cable connected sound card to graphics card. Maybe is not connected. To playing games I have a Motherboard MSI Z87-G45 Gamning with Intel i5 4570 (4cores per 3.2Ghz-3.6 turbo) 16GB Ram DDR3, nvidia GTX 570, HDD 120GB Sata3 SSD, 2 HDD 2TB SATA3 and one HDD 1TB SATA3 on oryginal Windows 7. That You see SONY VAIO VGX-XL100 is need Me only to Internet and Playing Movies . Olivier do You downloaded 2nd recovery disk to XL-100? Sorry for My English.
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Post by IT Troll on Nov 14, 2014 18:43:31 GMT
The original graphics card is quite old and weak. It does not for example handle H264 decoding, so your CPU has to do it all. A modern card, with the latest drivers will support the latest HDMI standard, 3D and HD Audio. The attached picture shows a different card, but with the S/PDIF cable which is required to make HDMI sound work on the older Nvidia cards. This is not required on newer cards. Again I would really advise against Windows XP, it is a dead operating system and will bring more problems than it will solve. Attachments:
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sylas25
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Post by sylas25 on Nov 14, 2014 20:06:44 GMT
Ok. I understand You. Maybe You`re right. Do You installed windows 7 with recovery disk?? or You update windows xp media center edition 2005 to windows 7? I have a 2 cable connected to my graphics card. I try to make a picture and added to forum. You have a quadcore processor, I have a intel pentium D (one core, 2 thread probably) processor and Windows 7 maybe slow working.
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Post by Oliver on Nov 14, 2014 20:34:05 GMT
A clean win7 install is better than an upgrade, upgrading can lead to stability issues. A clean win7 upgrade will cause a few minor annoyances, boot screen freeze and broken eject button. Both these issues can be fully resolved by following the guides on VGX-XLpedia... www.vgx-xl.com/tutorials/Oliver
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sylas25
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Sony Vaio VGX-XL100
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Post by sylas25 on Nov 14, 2014 21:02:33 GMT
My friend gives Me this computer with windows 7 ultimate 32 bit. When I install newest drivers for graphics card my screen looks like plasma or something. Something like a demos commodore 64 (multicolor texts) You know about I say, then I want installing windows xp original to this model becouse I want a everything works fine. On the windows xp and original drivers everything works fine, when I upgrade newewst drivers from nvidia site and reboot system screen is a center on tv and I must change resolution to any and return to 1920x1080 and over and over. I return to original drivers and now is everything allright.I have a problem with my wifi card, I mean wifi connection are ok but when I try conecting is error connection and its all. Sorry for My english
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Post by ward3550 on Nov 14, 2014 23:13:48 GMT
Could someone please help I have a xl302 and upgraded the graphic card and ever since the system will no longer allow me to use the restore discs it just says cannot confirm model number help!
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Post by IT Troll on Nov 15, 2014 9:32:01 GMT
@sylas
I can see from the pictures that the cable is connected. So it is either a problem with the sound driver or a HDMI compatibility problem with your TV. In the output properties in the sound driver it should be set to something like S/PDIF / HDMI
The Pedium D is dual core. It will still be fine for Windows 7 which is much better on older hardware than Vista was. It does really need at least 2 GB of RAM though, but I think you have 4 GB which is good.
The original graphics card is a custom one made by Sony and it can be very picky about which drivers it will work with. It probably is the case that it won't work with the latest drivers anymore. The XP drivers will be a much older version. You should be able to find some older Windows 7 graphics drivers which will still work with the original graphics.
If you stick with Windows XP and the original hardware then you will be able to play basic videos but it will struggle with HD 1080 and 3D will not be possible. So it depends on what your ultimate goal is. Windows XP has lots of security problems (and is sure to have many more) and so you will have to be very careful about using it for web browsing.
The Wi-Fi requires and external antenna. Do you have this and is it connected?
@oliver
I feel we have hijacked your recovery disc thread a little. Do you want to move these posts into a separated thread?
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Post by IT Troll on Nov 15, 2014 9:39:09 GMT
Could someone please help I have a xl302 and upgraded the graphic card and ever since the system will no longer allow me to use the restore discs it just says cannot confirm model number help! Hi Ward and welcome to the forums. I have never used the restore discs and so I can't advise if this is expected or not. However it may well be that the utility does make a check on the hardware. Do you still have the original card that you could temporarily reinstall in order to run through the restoration?
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Post by Oliver on Nov 15, 2014 11:07:04 GMT
This is the first I've heard of this problem, IT Troll's explanation sounds likely. I guess most modders have moved onto Win7 anyway so the issue has never came to light.
I know that my old XL100 used to run the recovery disks fine with extra memory and updated WiFi card, but I guess that would be expected.
Does anyone have any experience of using the recovery disks with modded hardware?
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sylas25
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Post by sylas25 on Nov 15, 2014 14:17:37 GMT
IT Troll I try install a Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit and older graphics drivers. I try on windows xp HDMI AUDIO drivers and nothing. I try this HDMI AUDIO install to windows 7 maybe work it. I have connected external antenna with 40cm lenght. wifi webs is finding but not connect, I try on windows 7.You`re right, pentium D820 is dual core, 2 threads.
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Post by ward3550 on Nov 15, 2014 14:47:00 GMT
That it troll I try putting old card back in and and tried the recovery and also the recovery discs and they will not work I am thinking sony must stop you using them just wondering if there was a way round this!
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Post by IT Troll on Nov 15, 2014 17:07:41 GMT
wifi webs is finding but not connect, I try on windows 7. It could be the encryption settings, I don't think Windows XP has things like WPA2 built-in, but you can add them with drivers. I am sure you will have more success with Windows 7.
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Post by IT Troll on Nov 15, 2014 17:10:18 GMT
That it troll I try putting old card back in and and tried the recovery and also the recovery discs and they will not work I am thinking sony must stop you using them just wondering if there was a way round this! Sorry you lost me there, I am not sure if it worked or not.
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sylas25
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Post by sylas25 on Nov 16, 2014 11:12:09 GMT
IT Troll I installed Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit. You`re right wifi works fine, I fix the freeze boot screen, but I don`t understand how I install apps from list Oliver. I installed but eject button work only boot screen and when loading system. In windows I must go into windows explorer and choose eject cd. Audio still nothing on HDMI. Maybe You give me Your drivers nvidia and audio? Meybe I must install any HDMI AUDIO drivers or something???
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Post by Woody on Nov 16, 2014 17:56:08 GMT
Could someone please help I have a xl302 and upgraded the graphic card and ever since the system will no longer allow me to use the restore discs it just says cannot confirm model number help! Hi Ward, As IT Troll correctly suggested, this is because the restore discs check the system components and will not work if the system has changed or modified hardware (indeed, it cannot as it would be trying to install drivers etc. for hardware that is not longer present). To use these, you need to put all of the original hardware back in the computer.. ..which is a bit of a pain. For this reason, most of use just do a clean Win 7 install and then put some of the essential Sony software back on. The system recovery discs from Sony can even be picky if you have changed HDD's as they look for ones that are of the original size.. ..Sony were not very 'forward thinking' from the point of view of their customers and their upgrade needs.. ..the best example of which is the Mr. Big BIOS project for VGX-XL's. Like most other IT/electronics manufacturers, it seems that they see most of the stuff they produce as having a fairly limited user life span (OK for a clock radio, not so sensible for a PC!).
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